Sunday Opinion: 2010 Here We (Maybe) Come!
Posted by Kingman 26 on 5:23pm, Sunday July 5th 2009
No, I have not given up. I have gone through all of the stages of illness with the 2009 Mets, and I have come to the stage of acceptance. As Popeye or Dennis Green might have said, it is what it is.
I do think that wiser folks like Case and Grave are indeed correct in holding out hope for us to stay within striking distance, and when the cavalry rolls over the hill (OK, bad choice of words) at some point after the All-Star break, we very well might be able to accomplish something in a weak division and a weak league.
We have been through all of this, collectively and individually, again and again, and I think that while we may disagree about the degree of blame Omar deserves, and the level of mediocrity exhibited by Jerry, we must agree that this year is not 1987, and nothing like the last two years. Yet, anyway. We are where we are due to injuries, plain and simple.
I am done trying to dissect and search for reasons, whether it is my friend Fong’s insistence on the WBC being to blame, or Oleo’s feeling that Omar not getting another bat is a primary cause of our misery, or many folks’ anger at Omar for Ollie, or my own belief that a better manager might be able to extract better play and more wins from this depleted bunch. I think all of these thoughts and many more have a place at the overcrowded table in this summer of discontent.
But we need to get up from that table, and it is time for the hat of optimism to be worn. We have Johan and we have Pelf. Wright is becoming the fiery, young and outstanding leader of this group as we watch the losses mount, and I firmly agreed with TRS that he was indeed loudly (and correctly and courageously) calling out Jerry (AND some teammates) regarding preparation last week. Jose will be back by next spring, young, fast, energetic and excellent. Beltran will be healthy again and will go back to being the game’s best CF. We have a strong bench. And despite the recent problems in the pen, we have an outstanding young closer signed for the next couple of years. JJ might indeed return to form, and if not, his salary coming off the books gives us greater flexibility. Feliciano has been excellent. Parnell and Green can be fine complimentary pieces as well.
Being 42 years old and growing up with the late 70s/early 80s Mets gives me the perspective of a Grave and a MetsFan4 when I try hard to act like a grown up. Back then, the idea of the postseason seemed like fantasy, and something for my friends who were Yankee fans. The Davey Johnson years changed all of that. 2006 was very good, not great, and 2007 and 2008 were disappointing, but far better than 1977-1983. I firmly believe that without the injuries, we were in for a special season this year. There is no reason to think that 2010 cannot be the special year we have been waiting for.
Even if this year continues exactly as it seems to be destined to, before we know it we will be thinking about next year. Maybe we will charge to the division lead when the reinforcements make their way back, and maybe we will finish under .500. Either way, the future remains very bright.
Delgado and Wagner’s large salaries come off the books, and JJ’s might as well. That, combined with what may be the third straight tremendously disapponting finish in a row, could be the math equation which equals us obtaining another player of Johan or Beltran level. Depending on how teams play out the year, we may see Oswalt and Holliday available at affordable prices, and maybe others as well. We may see Omar find another diamond (or at least nice shiny bead) in the rough.
The glass is surely not full, but at its base, it is indeed sturdy and built to last. The “window” for this team may just be opening, as this is a far different group than the 2006 team. Strength can indeed come from adversity, and if this group takes that to heart, the 2010 Mets might be something like the armies of Alexander the Great manned by a staff of Incredible Hulks.
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Brock, once again, a great read. I have lost all hope for this season unfortunately. Technically we are in striking distance but as Ive been saying, it wont last for long. June 1st, we were 6 games above .5oo. Now we’re three under. I guess we have to have hope and I dont want to dismiss anyone for having that but this team is just not that good, and for obvious reasons (injuries). Anyway, I’ll continue to verbally spar with my yankee fan counterparts, who are surely rubbing it in, and will always hold down the fort.
Btw, Brock, I want you to know that Johnny Doe is NOT A REAL ACTOR!!!
Ah June 1st, seems so long ago. I remember how excited I was. My wife and I were at the May 31 game against the Marlins (my first venture to CitiField). A nice Mets win capped off by K-Rod striking out the side. Mets were six games over .500 and in first place. Then things went terribly wrong in a hurry…
Thanks Qns!
I’m not going to shoot you in the state you’re in.
State of California? I know what state I’m in!!
im in a state of confusion - damn i loce beer pong !!
*love
If you indulge in verbal jousting with Yankees fans then soon you may be hit with the question some Yankees fans have asked of me (and they do it with glee). They notice that Wright’s power numbers have dropped and ask me if Wright has stopped using performance enhancing drugs.
Kingman,
Nice post and I wish I was optimistic as some of you guys, really I do. I just feel so beaten down by the happenings of the last few years (starting with the Molina homer and the Beltran K), it’s hard to feel good about Omar Minaya leading this team. Overall, he’s made some good moves and his share of bad moves but I don’t feel as if this team has a plan, a direction or a leader (still don’t see it from Wright and I certainly don’t see it from Jerry). The Mets’ farm system is OK, it’s got some nice prospects but not a lot of depth. You can blame injuries for this season, but did this team really spark that much confidence even at full strength? Mental mistakes and lackadaisical play have been a hallmark of this squad for a good part of three years. When do you say enough is enough and change the leadership? I’ve been a big Omar backer in the past but the more and more I watch this team, the more and more I believe it’s time for a change. Hopefully I’m wrong and I’m just overreacting. But getting dominated by the Yankees and Phillies in consecutive weeks shows that this team simply isn’t good. Even with injuries, you need to do the fundamental things right and these guys don’t do it. Would it kill Jerry to put on a hit-and-run, especially with DP machine Tatis at the plate? Try something different, be aggressive and make something happen. I’m disgusted right now, sorry to vent. As you were, Mets fans….
welcome a-sod we missed you
Thanks, I didn’t even know this site existed until I stumbled upon it looking for something else a few days ago. Imagine my delight when I saw familiar names such as Brock Kingman, yourself, Fong, GravediggerHebner and the rest of the crew. In the meantime, I started my own blog. Feel free to stop by. It’s on the blogroll (Mets, Music and Other Musings). That goes for anyone here. Feel free to post a comment on my work at anytime. I think it holds your first comment in moderation (which I hate) but once I approve it, you’re good to go for future postings. Good to see some well-run fan blogs!
well said kong - but wheres my mention?? lol if there has been anyone as pollyanna as u and grave and case i figured it would be me. i am holding out hope that when the calvary arrives it will put us on the right track but on the other hand can u expect guys that have been idle for 3 months to just pick up where they left off? my biggest fear is that come trade deadline either the philths or the marlins get the reinforcements they need and we get blown awayby omar’s inaction - the onus here as it was in the off season is on omar and the wilpons - i know we are not kreshkin and can’t predict the future regarding injuries but thats no excuse for going after a abreu or a ibanez and as for omars “total autonomy” thats an oxymoron coming from the mets ownership cuz they can’t be hands off - weve learned this- anyway lets get on a hot streak on tuesday and LETS GO METS !!!!
Damn, sorry I did not mention you man! I did this in a major hurry…am on vacation in South Carolina, which is why I have been absent the last few days. So blissfully relaxing, the sweep almost did not bother me….almost…..
ahh ok u missed some goot infamy posts btw anvil is opening for ac/dc at giants stadium - im happy for em
btw u agree with my assessment?
Yes, I do….I do not think we are going anywehre this year, and I completely agree that the Phils (and Braves) will make a big deadline pickup while we will not.
I think Omar has one more offseason to make it happen.
And I STILL wish we had gotten Ibanez, but I think he wanted to be in Philly, the bas*ard.
Myrtle or Hilton Head?
Isle of Palms, outside of Charleston….I lived in Charlotte NC as a little kid and my family started coming to the Charleston area over 30 years ago. Absolutely wonderful area, in pretty much all ways.
Favorite vacation spot of mine as well. Only live about 3 1/2 hours from Charleston.
While it is essentially true that I am in the “the cavalry is coming” group I am there with this caveat: the team is so unbelievably decimated by injuries that no realistically attainable trade will help it overcome them. Without Albert Pujols or Roy Halladay, there just isn’t anyone who would catapult the Mets over 3 teams and into 1st place. So I’m in that group because I don’t want to see the future mortgaged for no reason, ala Kazmir for Zambrano. I have no insight into if/when the various injured parties might be coming back and whether they’re going to contribute positively or not. But I do see that the NL, with the exception of the Dodgers, is pretty mediocre and IF these people come back not too late and perform at their previously set levels, the post season CAN happen.
I am still in the camp that small player moves CAN make a difference. We are not getting blown out, we need a big hit here or there and 1 player improvements can provide that. Example you get Huff AND Wiggy in a small blockbuster from the O’s for Niece and another couple of lower prospects? Again, I don’t know if that is possible but do you not think that helps this team tremendously?
Depends on who these prospects are. I believe strongly that the 2008 Huff would be a tremendous help. I don’t know what the 2009 Huff’s numbers would be playing at Citi Field half the time, and would David Wright be striking out batting before him or after him? I ultimately think Huff’s numbers would be significantly less on this team, in this lineup, in this stadium.
Wiggy, like DeRosa or Teahen, would be nice to have as the jack of all trades guy on the healthy Mets team. On this current Met team they would be an upgrade, but not so much to make enough of a difference IMO.
I think with any one of Delgado, Reyes or Beltran healthy and playing reasonably well (although if it were Delgado then no need for Huff so lets omit him) then Huff and Wigginton would together perhaps make enough of a difference, but not with only Wright to accompany them.
I tend to agree with you. Adding another bat causes more than a linear improvement in the ball club. It helps the other hitters in the lineup in that they’ll see better pitches and feel less pressure. It’s a case where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Grave–I just meant that you are one of the ones who has been mature and optimistic and has correctly stated that we will have many excellent trade deadline acquisitions without giving anything up….I did do this much quicker than usual, so sorry if I misrepresented your fine thoughts.
Brock my friend, you sort of misrepresented my stance on the WBC.
I do not feel our having sent two-thirds of of roster to the tourney
“is responsible”. I just wondered,
from the beginning how it could benefit the team.Also, I do find it
strange that most of our guys who
went have come up lame.Who knows?
I don’t! BUT It is mighty strange.
Further, given whats happened with
this team the last two yrs didn’t
it make more sense to have a full,
extended S.T. with the entire squad
AND Jerry/HIS Coaches running things?
May not be to blame BUT certainly didn’t help! Then again,neither apparently does Omars staff of Trainers or Minor League Coaches.
While always hoping,I didn’t see a
special season upcoming.Too many questions and still the Phillies
infront of us BUT I did expect ATLEAST
a run at the Wildcard,which now is fading fast.Soon to be 44,in my 36th
season as a die-hard,I’m tired of waiting! I thought that atleast the
watching would be fun BUT the past month this team is harder to watch
then some of our late 70s teams.
Can these guys atleast catch and
throw the baseball? Look,we’re all
hoping against hope BUT was a sloppy
team coming out of spring. Now, they’re a sloppy,overmatched team.
u still have to stay positive man - at least until we are mathmaticqally eliminated
Fong,
I’ve been saying this to my friends all along about the WBC. I absolutely hate having this thing in spring training, and Mets fans aren’t the only ones. Dice-K has been totally messed up this season, as has Peavy. You can’t have these guys play meaningful games when they’re not completely ready. Man, I wish Bud Selig would step down as commish. I think he’s been horrible for the game of baseball…..
Agreed!
Fong, I certainly did not mean to misrepresent you and I sincerely apologize…was just trying to include a few folks I respect who had strong opinions on a particular topic….
No need! No need at all
my friend. I wasn’t
insulted in any way
at all. I was just re-stating my case.
As a serious fellow fan
with as much time served as me,I have complete respect for
your posts/opinion.
I’m not easy to offend.
I appreciate the mention in what is a
very good read.
No harm,no foul.
Later!
do we really think omar will be given free reign this off season to make big name moves?? the wilpons wanted to stay status quote with the payroll this off season and when u hear they are only looking to increase payrioll by 5 mill at the trading deadline it doesnt make me feel confident that they will go after the best players on the market this coming off season
Yeah, call it the Bernie Madoff Redux. In that case, we as the fans get screwed with the higher ticket prices to see an inferior product on the field.
Fellas,I dont know if O
was gonna be allowed to spend as freely(Yankee like) as he may have wanted this
off season,especially
given Madoff. HOWEVER,
A real good GM would have found ways to be more creative in building a team with a
140Million dollar payroll.The lineups Jerrys put out are the
weakest I’ve seen EVER
as a Met Fan. Many of
these guys are not MLB
players(yet).They have
simply been overmatched
lately.At the same time,It doesn’t excuse
the very sloppy play!
Finally on the WBC,
Again I ask: How can
it help? AND what other
Company would allow for
what the Wilpons granted? In what biz?
Where? To make Bud Selig smile? C’mon!
And a Q? I asked 4 months ago:What would
have happened if a
Reyes or Wright suffered a career altering or ending injury during one of those highly intensive
games? Do we get to take any one we want
from another team to replace him with Mr.Seligs O.K.?
OR would we be expected to just suckitup and move on?
They’ll have Delgado 12, Wagner 10.5, Schneider 4.9, Cora 2, Tatis 1.7, Livan 2, Pagan .575, and possibly Putz 5 coming off the books. Including Putz that’s 38.675 million. I don’t necessarily trust them to spend it wisely, but they will at least have roughly that amount (probably a bit less due to the raises of others) to spend.
And by staying status quo this offseason they increased it 11.6
Thought Cora was two years?
Nope. Why would the Mets sign a useful player long term?
His previous contract with Boston was 2 years/$4 mil total, that’s probably what you’re thinking of.
Thanks!
Maybe figured
w/Omar,
Cora would automaticly been
give multiple yrs..
Just sayin’..
Meant automatically.
Long weekend!
If you personally owned this team, would you be willing to drop another 5mil just for this season. I probably wouldn’t.
And to Fong Omar has always been pretty creative. I’m not going to dig into his record for the millionth time but even when he was running Montreal he still managed to get guys like Colon to make a run. The guy is handcuffed. What the hell can he possible do to salvage this team that other teams are going to be willing to agree to. It takes at least two to make a trade, and trades don’t happen just because we want one.
Well as much as I hope this team can find what it takes to stay afloat and wait for Reyes, and Beltran, I think we all know they wont. They can but if we learned anything about the Mets the past 3 years it’s that they wont get it done. You can’t put the AAA team on the field, and expect to consistently win.
The Mets entered the weekend 1 game back, all they needed to do was win one game to stay 2 games out. They could not do it, and why should we expect them too?
The team is decimated, the front office is content with the team scratching and clawing for victories, scoring an avg of 1 run a game, pitching terribly, committing errors. Once we got back to a game out on Thursday, I thought that would be the type of victory that would propell the team, give them confidence, create momentum.
Alas, come Tuesday we will be in the same position with the same AAA lineup and the same front office, all content with where they are.
Meaningful games in September means:
not yet eliminated.
Beltran hasn’t even started any kind of rehab play (he still seems to be in the rest period).
There is not a chance he is back in Atlanta. Beginning of AUgust at the earliest.
Reyes can’t run yet and Maine is still shut down. August might be pushing it. Would not surpise me if they never come back this year.
Delgado seems to be on track, and putz feels better, so they could be back.
Frnakly, after Ollie, from the reports Wagner has the best shot of being the next guy back!
To me, waiting for the “calvery” to come back is a fool’s errand. because odds are they don’t all come back, not everyone will come back productive, and frankly, the team wasn’t the ‘29 Yankees when they were healthy!
I just struggle with expectations for August-September, even if we are going under the assumption that the calvery is big men with guns, not little kids with pea shooters.
make moves now if you can, if not, try to do better next off season.
I’ve never said this before
September (or, a few times-
October) BUT we’re done.
Its over fellas. I know because the Wilpons and Omars
inaction confirms THEY think
its over.
We are technically in striking distance, but this team has played such horrid fundamental baseball all season that I can’t see any realistic way they go anywhere. Blaming the injuries only gets at part of the problem. These guys aren’t playing good baseball. Even backups and fill-ins are professionals, but ours don’t seem to understand how to catch/throw a baseball, or how to run the bases. That does not make a championship team. The poor fundamentals were with this team even when we were totally healthy, so that’s not the fault of injuries.
I’m a firm believer that Jerry and Omar deserve to be thrown out of Citi Field by the end of the season and never allowed back in. Jerry’s been a terrible manager all season and Omar can’t build a solid team around the stars he brings in. I’d personally like to see us drafting/trading to develop a team for the 2012 area, as I honestly think we have too many holes to fill to win next season. Build this team right, Omar’s Replacement! Do it, sir!
This was supposed to be posted at the bottom of the comments section, but I’m an idiot. Oops.
Agree on the injuries. If Reyes does come back how effective will he be. His game is centered around speed, something a sore hammy doesn’t have in common with.
my opinion? It technically isn’t too late for this team, and stranger things have happened. But as configured, I really do not expect them to even play .500 through July. And if they hit 8/1 6+ under .500, and likely in 4th place (which should be 10 out by then), the odds of pulling a ‘69 are miniscule at best.
Really, they are only “in the race” now because the Phils decided to tank along with them! Or as someone said on the radio today, they stunk just a little less than the Mets.
So any moves better be geared toward 2010 too. If they can pick up someone useful as a rental in a salary dump for non-prospect, go ahead. Otherwise, if they are trading from their limited stock of shipcs, it better fill one of the 2010 gaping holes.
I harped a lot on looking ahead last off season ( I know Tex was a piope dream, but that concept at least). So now they have to do a lot of work in 1 year. So say Rios is available for the taking (true salary dump), and you think he can be a valuable part of the core for the next 3 years. That you do ASAP. Help now, help later.
And if Omar botches it, the team could be sunk for years. This is a big, big offs season. he has some budget churn to use wisely, and some nice prospect to use correctly. If he ends up signing another Ollie and Castillo, while trading Holt and F Mart for Mike Bordick and Victor Zambrano, the early 80’s will be here before yo uknow it.
So leaving these huge decisions, plus trying to deal with the disfunction of the organization (much of which he is responsible for) scares the Willies out of me as a fan.
They also need to do a better job focusing on guys that play the game right, and have real defensive skills. And play them in positions that they are qualified to play.
OK, I am vented.
Don’t trust Omar???
See, to me that sounds like the “wait for the cavalry” group because you don’t trust Omar to make the right moves and therefore with him in charge I think you’d prefer he didn’t make moves (if I’ve understood your past comments correctly, if not I apologize) because they’ll likely be bad ones. So therefore is that not the “wait for the cavalry” group?
The reason why I’m on your so called “fool’s errand” of waiting for the cavalry is precisely because I don’t want any Kazmir/Zambrano moves as I stated above.
I’m really in neither camp my friend.
I don’t trust Omar
to be clever enough
to bring in a couple
guys who could really
help while we wait for the Cavalry.Not Superstars BUT professional MLB Players w/o getting
hijacked.Now thats not to say I’d poo-poo ANY
move but at the same
time either he will or won’t.He ain’t callin’ me for advise.
At the same time,
while we wait teams
are really taking and
returning to form which
will only expedite our
being 10+ under and 10+
out of any playoff spot
if and when everyone
returns in lets say
early August.AND THATs
giving Omar the benefit of the doubt. Afterall
His staff is never sure
if a guy’ll be out a
few days or a few months. Am I wrong here?
No, you’re not wrong. But my “See, to me that sounds like the ‘“wait for the cavalry”’ group” statement was a reply to Stickguy, not you. I was not lumping you into any group. It’s funny how so many of the comments in here are “hey I’m not in that group” comments. I guess we either all express ourselves poorly, or we all change our minds from time to time, or we all have poor memories. Probably some combination of all 3.
sometimes the nesting gets hard to follow!
I did answer below, but you make a good point about lumping people into groups. I think there are 2 many variations to do that. Not to go political, but it is like saying all demorats or republicans think 100% alike.
Well, other than all believing tht Jerry is an idiot…
probably different shades of waiting for the calvery.
There is the “when they come, this team will take off” so QED no reason to make a panic move now.
But, there is the “it won’t matter what they do, it won’t be enough, so don’t bother to make a move either” camp.
same effect, of standing pat and seeing what happens. I just don’t happen to think that A) the big miracle move is there right now, or B) that the walking wounded are going to come back and lead them to the promised land.
But, like TRS, I think they should have (and still should) make some smart smaller adjustments ASAP to improve the roster, which should lead to a few more wins short term.
WOn’t be enough to put them in the lead, but could at least keep them into the hunt until the DL crew comes back!
My real point is, don’t mortgage the future for long shot rentals, but go ahead and make moves that fill the holes for 2010+.
ANd I don’t neccessarily think Omar will make bad moves per se, just that it might not be moves with that vision in mind.
In an effort to stop deliberately or inadvertently lumping people into groups I’ll just say “Well Said Sir.”
As succinctly as I think I can state my own view it is this:
I don’t think the big move that will help is out there; I don’t think the small move that may help is worth it;
I don’t trust Omar to make the right small move anyway.
The difference between these past 3 seasons and some of those older God awful teams was the expectations. Mid way through ‘06 and through April of this year, my expectations for this team were high. Watching one by one head to the DL this season, I knew realistically this was a big blow. Beltran was the last straw. For the sake of my sanity, I had to lower my expectations. Instead of ‘good chance to win the division’, I went to ‘underdogs’. After this weekend, now I’m just taking it day by day….
I’ve watched this game long enough to know that anything can happen, anything is possible. Can we get it going when the guys come back? Sure, there is the possibility. Difference for me is, I no longer think it’s a reality though. I’ve still got hope - and always will until mathematically eliminated. It’s just not looking like it’s our year though right now.
And reading the comments above, I think many are on that same page. We’re already talking about next year, how to improve the team, how much money we’ve got to spend. When we should have been discussing the strategy for how to remain in first and win it all this year. How sad is this?
Damn, Damn, Damn…
Amen! Worst part of wait til
next yr is wasting the efforts
of guys like Johan and KRod
who will just be a yr older
next season.
so true. 2007 and 2008 were wasted years. especially 2007.
I forgot who said it, but I think it was one of the best comments:
This off season is going to be super important with all that money coming off the books. It can set this team on track for a long time to come or the opposite. What is sad, looking at the results of the all star game rosters, we lead the NL with 4. I mean we have an amazing team and every year something happens. The last 2 years they collapse and this year we get the injury “bug”…um make that plague. Lets get some nice additions to surround our core with. I think this off season will settle that Omar as a GM debate.
I for one don’t trust Omar. Most of our core either fell into his lap or were not his doing. He sits on prospects too long, never selling high. And he outbids himself. I just dont see this team getting to the next level with him in charge.
What example do you have of him sitting on his prospects too long other than Flopillidge?
Heilman
Jonathan Niese is quietly getting his act together at Buffalo. He tossed a five-hit shutout tonight with two walks and 10 Ks (not sure why they let him throw 126 pitches, but oh well). In his last 43 1/3 innings (spanning 6 starts), Niese has allowed 5 earned runs on 30 hits with 10 walks and 39 strikeouts. That’s a 1.04 earned run average over those six starts. Niese is one of our few major-league ready prospects. Do you think the Mets hold on to him or trade him? I’d think of calling him up and sliding Nieve to the pen. I’d just cut Redding altogether, but I doubt that happens. If the Mets are going to struggle, I’d rather see a guy like Niese in the rotation than Nieve or even Livan for that matter (although Livan has been for the most part pretty good).
Niese is not ready yet and for this year his best value may be as a trading chip.
Do we really want to see the rotation of
Johan, Pelfrey, Maine, Perez, Niese next year? Just as many question marks as before. And don’t even think about the idea that Perez or Maine won’t be here because they will be.
Well, if the Mets fall out of it (which I believe they will), I think they should give Niese a chance (hat tip to John Lennon). I really don’t think Fernando Nieve is that good (prior history backs me up) and if I had to choose, I’d go with Niese. You say he’s not ready, he’s certainly pitching well right now and has little else to prove at the AAA level if he keeps it up.
I think the Mets should definitely try and work with Fernando Nieve. He has some of the best stuff on the team. He couples an excellent fastball with a late breaking curve. He has shown that when he has command he can shut down any lineup.
So, for that matter, has Oliver Perez.
Niese is the perfect example of what this team needs to do with prospects let him succeed at this level and learn how to pitch.Pitching is just as much about smart thinking than just talent and when a pitcher like niese who isn’t the most overwelming talent learns how to think like a pitcher then he can be allot more sucessful.The problem with the mets and most other teams is they rush these guys up, with the little bit of depth that we have in pitching, him staying down and figuring it out will do him wonders.How many times do you hear that extra season in the minors did a player wonders.
We are technically in striking distance, but this team has played such horrid fundamental baseball all season that I can’t see any realistic way they go anywhere. Blaming the injuries only gets at part of the problem. These guys aren’t playing good baseball. Even backups and fill-ins are professionals, but ours don’t seem to understand how to catch/throw a baseball, or how to run the bases. That does not make a championship team. The poor fundamentals were with this team even when we were totally healthy, so that’s not the fault of injuries.
I’m a firm believer that Jerry and Omar deserve to be thrown out of Citi Field by the end of the season and never allowed back in. Jerry’s been a terrible manager all season and Omar can’t build a solid team around the stars he brings in. I’d personally like to see us drafting/trading to develop a team for the 2012 area, as I honestly think we have too many holes to fill to win next season. Build this team right, Omar’s Replacement! Do it, sir!
dont forget hojo too.
Thanks for the shoutout, Kingman.
Getting swept by the Yanks and Phils has to be the ultimate low point of the season.
Luckily, my holiday weekend kept me away from the TV.
I did see the Cyclones come from behind in the 9th on Friday, with some fireworks afterwards. I then enjoyed some Belated B-Day BBQ on Saturday, and finally got may daughter to keep her Dora helmet on so we went bike riding today.
As for the Mets, I’m thankful the pitching has kept up. I have no words for the hitting.
Unfortunately, we won’t see any trades until the trade deadline. So all we can do now is keep the faith and the bar full. Hopefully, Omar can pry Johnson and/or Dunn from the Nats.
per Adam Rubin
Lefthander Jon Niese tossed a five-hit shutout with a season-high 10 strikeouts in Triple-A Buffalo’s 5-0 win against Rochester on Sunday night.
CaseStreet: Trade him now!
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2009/07/nice-night-for-niese.html#ixzz0KRfZyPPr&D
A better move for the mets right now would be to send murphy,evans and martinez back to triple a where they belong let them kick ass down there hone some of there skills work on a solid position down there then reacess the situation next year imagine them in triple a next year that would be some depth as for this year there are loads of recently released major leagers to play on the mets and fill in I think this is minor leager abuse, can omar be charged criminally for that?