Marquis Continues to Court Mets
Posted by trs86 on 10:14am, Friday October 16th 2009
According to Tracy Ringolsby at Inside the Rockies Jason Marquis continues to let his closest friends know he wants to pitch for the Mets in 2010.
“RHP Jason Marquis $9.875 million: Has told former teammates his goal is signing with the Mets. ”
Obviously his comments with Frenchy have been well documented. However, from this report we have to assume there has been discussions with more than one former teammate.
Marquis has had a respectable year, not a career year as many have said. He did finish with a career high in innings at 216 and put up a career best in HR/9 at .6 (which is astounding considering he pitched half his games in Colorado). What is also unusual is how drastic his change in GB percentage was. Marquis has always been considered a ground ball pitcher but increased that rate to 55.6% this year, an increase of 8% from the previous season and 6% higher than his career averages. Another statistic to look at Marquis has had 11 or more wins for the last 6 years and has started 32 or more games during that span every year but 2008.
So what is Marquis worth? I do not want to get tied up in the discussion of is he a #1, 2, 3, 4, 5. In my opinion he is a mid-rotation starter. Certainly not on the level of Lackey. If I considered Lackey a B, Marquis would be a C along with Piniero.
Another question you have to ask, is Marquis the NY native genuinely wanting to pitch in NY or is doing what many have done before. Draw NY in to raise the price of their future contract. With Marquis, I am chosing that he wants to pitch in NY. Now whether or not he will take a hometown discount, remains to be seen.
If you were GM of the Mets, would you be interested in Marquis? If so, what would your top offer be?
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I think it depends on the direction they chose to go in. How important the offense is compared to pitching. What Lackey’s demands are. IF a team is willing to go 5 years at 18M+ for Lackey I am running for the hills. Could the Mets give Marquis a 3 year deal at 30M but go 6M, 12, 12? Allowing them to more money to spend in 2010? Also, could they go in a direction of signing Marquis and then trying to trade for Halladay (and Overbay if they are ready to treat him as a salary dump). Could Maine be included as PART of that package?
Johan, Halladay, Marquis, Pelfrey, Perez is certainly a FINE rotation. If Marquis cost 8 and Halladay 15 then the Mets would still have roughly 8M to improve other areas.
“IF a team is willing to go 5 years at 18M+ for Lackey I am running for the hills.”
Better get that survival gear ready… “in Omar we trust”…
I’d say it all really depends on how much Marquis wants. I definitely would like him in the mid-rotation area to reduce our reliance on Pelf-Ollie-Maine rebounding more than they likely will. There’s no basis for stating either way what his intentions are [using NY to up his money or genuinely wanting to be here], in my opinion. Also, Tracy doesn’t cite any specific examples of him talking to his former teammates about playing for the Mets, so her statement about that could still be just a reference to those discussions between him and our RFer (adding the plural word ‘players’ just to make it sound more concrete). Who knows at this point.
It’s largely irrelevant but FYI Tracy Ringolsby is a man.
http://blitz.bostonsportsmedia.com/images/tracy_ringolsby.jpg
Heh, oops. Thanks. I never really pay attention to writers’ pictures. That’ll teach me.
If Marquis wants the home-town discount and wants to negotiate a contract based on the fact that last season didn’t exist, then i’m all for it
A big no on marquis any guy who wasn’t considered to start for two different teams in the playoffs is definatley not a 3,or a # 4 starter
only if he is cheap. He really is not very good. I can’t figure out how to get a split season, but from reading MLBTR, it seems that he did have a good start to the season, but the 2nd half was lousy.
Look, anyone who was the #3 starter at one point but gets left off the post season roster, is not good!
2/10 maybe? That’s about it. He is 5th starter material (maybe 4th depending on how you grade), but that is it.
If you look at his numbers, he is definitley a cut below Maine. And yes, I know Maine missed a chunk of time recovering from getting his spur out, but if his september starts (with no pain) are an indication that he might be OK, he will significantly outperform Marquis in 2010.
The only good number marquis put up was his IP. most of the other periferal #s were pretty dismal.
I would rather bring in a couple of risk/reward guys than overpay for an “innings eater” that isn’t very good. Might as well go with the Figgymisches of the world and save money!
Between 6 and 10M, depending on how many years. Something like:
1/10
2/16
3/18
Omar needs to stop paying mediocrity 10mill+ a year. No wonder the payroll is so high, but they don’t have the budget to fill all the holes!
Over the past 3 yrs, Marquis has averaged approx. 3 WAR. Currently, $4M per win is fair market value. So you could make an argument that Marquis is worth $12M per year.
Of course there are better options. I’m just giving my thoughts on different ways to make it work.