The Phillies Are Back-to-Back Champs! …wait, what?
Posted by prismo on 10:57am, Monday November 2nd 2009
Don't count your Phanatics before they hatch
According to this post on The700Level, this ad popped up on the back page of this morning’s Philadelphia Inquirer. The Phillies are down in the the series 3-1, but they’re not out yet! Six teams since 1900 have accomplished the feat of coming back from a 3-1 series deficit. I have to give some credit to Rollins though - he was gracious enough to allow the Yankees to win three games in the series, after his initial 1-game allowance. What a classy guy.
I also have a request, if the Phillies don’t come back (I’m trying not to jinx anything here) that we continue to refer to them as the WFCs. Except, instead of World *Frickin’ Champions it will now stand for the World *Frickin’ Chumps.
*this word should rhyme with clucking. B’gawk!
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Yeah, whatever. So number 27 seems a
lock for the yankees. Nice way to open
their new stadium and further their history. This while we try and figure
out how to find bargains out there to
fix all the holes on our team.
This really is the perfect end to the worst season of my life as a Met fan.
The only way I start to feel better about 2010 is if Omar can somehow and
bring in Crawford,AGonzalez&Lackey.
Man Fongy, that’s well uh hopeless then.
I will say it again, it stinks to be you. j/k.
Nah.actually it’s pretty good to be me.
What stinks is being a Met fan.Especially with
the trio of Wilpon,Wilponand Minaya
running the show.
So are you saying you are NOT a Mets fan? I for one am a Mets fan and still have tons of hope.
I’m happy for ya!
consider it done
Just takes money and the desire to actually
win a championship!
Ya know, like the yanks
adding just 4 players
for half a billion BUT
adding the right 4 players which would all
but assure rings.
How much extra cash do ya think another championship brings a
team in NY?
The Steinbrenners know
and the Wilpons either
don’t or don’t care that much.
You’re totally right. The Mets didn’t have the second highest payroll in the bigs going into the 2009 season. What cheapskates.
I talkin’about next season and not being limited by “a budget”.
And b/t/w,isn’t your statement another indication that although writing shecks is his strong suit,its just another
thing he stinks at?
He may write the right checks, but he definitely writes them. wrightwriterightomgz
Just really makes you wonder where our money is going doesnt it. The second highest payroll in 2009 and we have nothing to show for it. Yet the phillies with the 6th highest are playing in the WS…
Wow fong…not for nothin but i totally agree with you.
So you won’t be happy unless the Mets bring in Agonz, Lackey and Crawford? Man that’s tough.
At least go all
out in their efforts to bring
in these types.
No? AND please
no excuses like’
we had to settle
on a Luke Scott
instead of a Carl Crawford
b/c it would
put us 5,10mil
over “budget”.
I’ve asked before,Is the goal to win a
championship OR
meaningful games
in September?
Hate em all ya want but the yankees did(spent) anything they could to make their inagurial season special…they had a new stadium and they knew how to take advantage of it and open it in style. Hopefully the mets can take notes since this opportunity has passed them by….
Agreed! Sad but true.
well fong would START to feel better with those guys. I would think anyone would be hard pressed to find someone who wouldnt start to feel good if they brought those guys in. The Mets have about 100 different ways to go this offseason and most likely it will be a way that nobody thought of. Whether they will get one of those three is impossible to say but cant say i would be mad if they do.
Just opened my copy of the paper, and yup, there is the ad. It is for macy’s. SOmeone in the copy department is going to get reamed out good for this one!
Too bad the Giants spit the bit yesterday. Otherwise, it would be a fun day to go out in public, here in philly land.
There are good days to go out in public in illadelphia?
LOL Someone’s getting fired for that one.
And maybe I’ve missed it since I’ve
only watched about 90% of this post season BUT…Not one word/mention of ARod’s steroid abuse?
Not one word about the entire issue
and scandal the whole steroid era was
AND how much the yankees benefitted from it? And b/t/w how much worse could the umpping be?
Still though…No replays!…No red hankys!
Good. I don’t want to hear about steroids anymore.
This ARod is such a low-life that even
after his best moment in baseball,he has to knock a teammate.
Anyone else catch the post game interview where he said that,this
team is so good that even when guys like him
and Texeira hadn’t done
anything,they were still up in the series?
Huh,…friggin’ ARoid!
I didn’t find the statement offensive but I did have to think twice about it.
He could have just limited his comments to himself. But in the end, it was just honesty.
Also, I didn’t hear the question that was asked. Did the question relate to both his and Tex’s struggles?
Not at all.
And to me it was just another indication as to who this low life
really is.
No one was talking
about either Tex nor even ARod’s struggles until
lastnight.If he wanted to say he hadn’t been hitting(or fielding)up to par,fine.But,you bring a
teammate into it?C’mon!
This is why no one likes the guy anyplace he’s been.
they both combined had like 2 hits in the WS. I dont think tex would be mad at that, its not a secret. Arod and Tex have done nothing in the WS yet the yanks are about to close it out. Just honest i think
Point is very Kobe like.
“I should have just paid her off like Shaq does.
Teammates don’t do that on almost any level.
I believe McCarver and/or Buck did bring up the ARod steroid scandal last night. I was watching the game on my PC, but had the sound on mute, listening to something else for awhile. I was reading on a Yankee blog that McCarver was so obviously Philly biased and it was just like him to bring up the ARod steriod scandal last night, blah, blah, blah.
I’d like a yankee fan to give just one example where he’s been
Philly biased.But ya know with yankee fans
if you so much as say
philly is the defending champs,you’ve
insulted them and the great yankee tradition.
Just another reason why they’re impossible
to take!
Buck and McCarver are NOT NOT NOT Philly biased.
Yeah, just telling you what those Yankee fans think. I think they were complaining about the fact that there was way more enthusiasm on McCarver/Buck’s part when the Yankees got the big hits/outs, then when the Phillies did….
Obviously, I meant that the other way around….
no, they’re just baseball retarded.
Oh, here’s another good reason - comment from a Yankee fan on a Philly blog:
‘Somebody should have told the Phillies that this isn’t the NL’s version of a NY baseball team. Predictions, joking around and making dumb face on the field, taking shots at the Yankee fan in press conference’s does not fly. Both Jeter and Posada have that Michael Jordan killer insinct, you put them into a position where they have to save face…and have.’
Oh to have a 2000 rematch and beat the pants off them. That would shut those Yankee fans up for awhile…
They’re time will come….
a couple yrs from
now when ARods done,Jeter can’t
move @SS
Posada can’t Catch anymore
A.J.s hurt and
CC is 350lbs w/a sore arm
while the yanks are still on the hook for a couple hundred mil.
By then the Yankees’ revenue sources will have grown to the point where the Yankees will be able to spend an additional $200 million and bring in the players to win another championship. lol
if we get to the World Series, i want no part of the Yankees. I want to see an actual World Series, not a stupid everybody is going to complain about NY WS. As a Met fan who didn’t get to see ‘86, I’d love to be able to watch the Mets in an actual World Series, were I can actually for once be able to say to Yankees fans “O you’re talking smack about the Mets? Where are your Yankees..o thats right playing golf, while we are playing baseball. I have literally been able to say this once in my life, and Yadier Molina proceeded to break my heart.
Hey, has anyone heard anything about Newsday changing its new pay policy? The entire site seems to be available again, and I’m pretty sure it was supposed to be pay by now.
Nevermind, it’s back. I still got to ask a question for Ken’s chat. Mwahahaha.
I just can’t get excited about these “before they actually happen” shirts and books and other commemoratives. They are a fact of production schedule realities. At least some poor people in a third world country will put them to good use.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha…
Very good.
Very graphic.
Sad but true…some 12 y/o
in Somalia holding a machine gun with a Phillies back to back T-shirt on.
Indeed……Very sad BUT true.
Yeah, it will be nice for him to finally be able to wear something other than the “Mets 2006 World Champs!” and “Mets 2007 NL East Champs!” and “Mets 2008 NL Wild Card Champs!” shirts he has been wearing out….
He’s been wearing those underneath his “19-0 Patriots Super Bowl Champs” sweatshirts.
Yeah, or like the teenager
I saw at
the grocery
Sunday
wearing a #7 Hoying-
Eagles jersey.
……
Dude!?
All I can say is “wow!”
This question goes to Prismo, or I guess just any Mets fan rooting for the Yankees? How can you root for the Yankees to win the World series? And Why do you even hate Philly so much?
Philly is a good team. They don;t buy their team, they’ve got clutch players that aren’t necessarily superstars, but get it done when it counts (such as Victorino or Werth, Utley in my book is a superstar.) They built their team pretty muchf rom scratch. Rollins, their own player, victorino, garbage from Dodgers that they turned into gold, werth was the same deal, howard is their own, utley is their own. They are a real baseball team. Do you know whats going to happen to them when Werth and alot of these guys hit the market? They are going to lose them! Why? Because the laws of baseball actually apply to them. Whereas the Yankees can do whatever they want. They have the most obnoxious, stupid, annoying fans in the world. All we are going to hear now is how historically wonderful this WS is with their new BS wiffle ball Stadium. O but their going to lose their team right, because now they’re all talented and need big contracts? Wrong, in fact they will probably just add another superstar or two to sure up their outfield and maybe bring in Lackey to fill in the #5 spot in their rotation. How can you have a soul and root for the Yankees? and fine, fine the Phillies did embarrass and call out the Mets, but A. Its not like the Mets didn’t prompt them to. B. They actually have a reason to be obnoxious to us, because we are the big market team of their division, the big city slickers, who dance and show their team up. C. I understand wy a Philly fan would hate us. D. They represent the National league, and our division, so you should root for them.
Except for representing the NL
East,I couldn’t agree more!
The only thing in this life that I have such a distaste
for which borders on hate is
the yanks and (almost all)
their fans.
Sorry,I know its terrible but its true.
I went to college in central Pennsylvania and now work with several Phillies fans. Trust me, I have my reasons to hate all things Philadelphia.
Well, I pretty much totally agree.
It is one thing for us or the Phils or the Angels or Red Sox or Cubs to spend $115–145 million, but the Yanks spend $200+. Or about 40% more than the 2nd highest spending team. Completely ridiculous.
Think Billy Beane or Theo Epstein would ever finish behind the Yanks if they could spend $200 million? Think the Yanks would ever win a thing if they had to spend $140 million?
The Phils have done an amazing job of putting together a team, even if they lose it tonight.
Whiny Met fans should be ashamed of the classless and silly blubbering at the Phils this year. They play hard and well, and have done an amazing job the last three years.
And the Yankees don’t play hard and well? You should be ashamed of being a close-minded ignoramus.
because if you don’t play hard, they will just replace you with another superstar.
When has that happened? Did you just pull that out of your arse? I’d love to hear some recent examples.
Well Prismo, first off I most definitely did not say that the Yanks don’t play hard–did you read that in my post, or are your eyes still too clouded with Phillie tears?
I will VERY enthusiastically say that you have most definitely set yourself apart in a really impressive way with your weeks and weeks of whining about the Phils and rooting for the Yanks.
Believe it or not, some Met fans with more than a few years of history behind them actually might find your position unbelievable.
I just find it childish and really obnoxious. And I am sick to death of your arrogant, sanctimonious whining about the Phillies.
There’s a huge difference between whining and trash-talking for fun. Some of my best friends are Phillies fans and we give each other a hard time about various sporting events daily, but I would never say they or I whine.
Once I got past the end of the Mets season, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this post-season. I have no idea what you mean by “Phillie tears” - because I’ve enjoyed every minute of this post-season, even when the Phillies have won. I love baseball, first and foremost.
I can root for whomever I want to root for - and you can too. I don’t give half a damn if you pronounce your manlove for the Phillies here, so why would you care if I’m cheering the Yanks on?
Some human beings with more than a few years of life experience actually might find you immature.
Finally, I hope you choke on a cheesesteak.
Furthermore, both my mom and brother are die-hard Yankees fans (my parents were a mixed marriage). It’s nice having the whole family rooting for the same team for once as this is the first time in my life I’m cheered for the Yanks.
There is another way to look at it. The Yankees business office has done an outstanding job of developing revenue sources on and off the field both local, national and international (the Cowboys under Jerry Jones have done a similar job) that they can easily afford to acquire these players. Now they could reinvest their finances in a Ponzi scheme or additional private Jets but they choose to reinvest it back into the team. This is not only great for the fans but helps to keep those sources of revenue flowing. Whereas football has a salary cap to prevent someone like Jerry Jones from doing what the Yankees do in baseball, baseball sadly does not. So I don’t know how you can blame the Yankees approach when it is incredibly successful and within the rules of baseball.
You are absolutely and completely correct in many ways; but this is not at all great for the fans of other teams in other cities.
I think the salary cap is one of many ways the NFL runs circles around MLB and the NBA and NHL.
And the amazing thing is that except for the years of about 1965-75 and 82-93, the Yanks have largely been this way since the 1920s!
I’m convinced Kingman is the only sane Mets fan in the word
I happen to completely disagree with your post and I have also never rooted for another NL East team in the playoffs, not even when the Marlins played the Yankees in 2003. That’s just my personal choice. I don’t ask anyone to agree.
That being said, its completely useless to keep having this discussion. Everyone’s choice one way or the other is based on emotion and no one is going to change their mind at this point. Emotions are subjective. I think the one thing we can ALL agree on is that we all want the WS to be over, no matter who wins.
Exactly.
People are getting WAY too up-in-arms about who others are rooting for. I’m rooting for the Yankees, but I don’t give a damn if others root for the Phillies - just don’t get on my back about my own choices in the matter.
Exactly!
+1
What does Philly being a good team have to do with Met fans hating them and/or not wanting to root for them?
The Braves had a good team too in the 90s and you wouldn’t catch me rooting for them in post season.
It’s called a division rival. Doesn’t have to be based on any facts.
And no, I don’t like the Yankees either and never have. That’s why this WS sux….
Not ‘rooting’ for either one to win. Rather just rooting more for either/or team to lose.
Can’t agree with your reasoning at all. I ’should’ root for the Phils? No, anymore than I rooted for the Braves of the 90s in post season.
And sorry, Philly fans justified in being obnoxious to us? Really?
Good example with the Braves…I NEVER rooted for them in playoffs during the 90’s no matter who they played.
Ohh, Metsfans, take off the blinders my friend. Mets fans are obnoxious, too. Every fanbase has its idiots, Philly included.
Like i’ve said before, its tough to root for a team with players like Rollins that is constantly making cocky predictions and victorino who complains and is a dirty player. Also, maybe if the phillies didnt always complain when the mets were celebrating or happy.
It’s a tough choice all the way around.
Phills: big mouth Rollins, the whinin’ Hawaiian, and Hollywood Hamels.
Yanks: steroid cheating ARod and Petit, and fist pumping Joba.
Pick your poison.
I’m pretty sure that 95% of us dislike BOTH teams. We just dislike one more than the other. It can be very subtle.
Prior to the series starting my stance was I have nothing to root for so I won’t be watching.
Because I like baseball I’ve tried to watch, I’ve caught a few innings of most of the games, but whenever some action takes place my reaction is always:
“yeah/awww” or “awww/yeah” and a moment later I’m just as dissatisfied as I was before the action.
I’m glad you and others can find it, but personally I have not found that subtlety. Like someone else said above I’m just waiting for it to be over. The end of the World Series will be here before Godot anyway.
I definitely understand that sentiment.
I agree. It’s too hard to root for either - LOL.
But you have to admit that play in the top of the ninth was a treasure to behold.lol
Ok well I hate the phillies because
A) they are obnoxious and talk to much
B) they are the most hypocritical team that ive ever seen/heard
C) their fans are worse than yankee fans
D) they are our main competititon in our league, why shoudl I like them. Did you like the braves when the won 14 str8
Well obviously you aren’t a true Met fan, because our fandom is dependent on who we root for when the Mets haven’t even played for a month. :p
Not for nothing, but some of you do understand that it is natural to NOT root for a team you don’t like or are in competition with right?
Well, I certainly do. That’s the point myself and other have been making for a couple of weeks now. Others disagree, thinking it’s far easier to root for the Phils - or the Yankees - depending on their point of view….
Of course; personally I am a bit surprised this year. I do not remember anything like this against the Phils the last two years on the other site.
I am still very surprised that Met fans would choose the Yanks over anyone, even the Phils, but I definitely understand and respect the sentiment.
I’m with you Brock.
Having become a Met fan while the yankswere building their mid/late 70s
dynasty,it was tough
to stay loyal while
everyone around you was a yank fan.
All the more sweet though when we were real good in the mid/late 80s AND annoying that their were many phoney yankee fans who suddenly liked the Mets.Point is, I live through to much history
in the 70s,80s,90s and
early this century arguing with yankee fans and their holier then thou attitudes
to really develop hated
for some other team and
their fans.
Sure,I didn’t care for the Braves BUT we all knew their fans were complete phoneys and
guys like Chipper and Rocker were easy to root against. Am I supposed to hate the Nats or Marlins in a couple yrs if they’re good when we are?
And what if we makea run where for a couple yrs we play the same team in the playoffs
like the Rockies?Am I
supposed to hate them then? As a dyed in the wool,true New Yorker
who became a Met fan
36/37 yrs ago,theres been simply too much negative history between me(us) and yankee fans and they’re
constant,yearly sense of entitlement,as well as the yankee FO disregard for a players market and how
it effects every other team and their fans.
Many of you may suddenly hate the phillies but there is NO DOUBT in my mind that if THIS philly team was ours,they’d be loved by EVERY Met
fan for their talent,heart,guts,personality and fight.
And Brock is also right about the spending issue.
There is a huge diff b/t 120/130mil and 200plus.
I respect Jeter and Rivera who are the best players at their positons in the past 15yrs and I respect the hard,everyday workman attitudes guys like Texeira and Swisher have brought to
this team but lets be honest,this is another purchased championship.
But, but, but…..
It’s very easy to root against Rollins, Victorino and Hamels for many of the same reasons we rooted against Rocker and Chipper.
It just wasn’t the same for me in 2003 though with the Marlins. I think it’s the teams players themselves at the time and some of the bandwagon fans crawling out of the woodwork in Philly the past three years.
Now the Yankees - I’m a 40+ year fan so I understand your sentiment completely and agree as I’m one of those life long Yankee haters.
For some reason though, the current Philly regime annoys me more right now.
And I really hate to say this but…if the Phillies do win, maybe that’s a better idea ’cause they’ll be complacent about upgrading the team. –Instead of getting rid of their crappy 3rd base options, the bench, securing maybe the same #2 we’re going after and shoring up their BP…..
Everything you said is 100% correct.
When you say this
“Many of you may suddenly hate the phillies but there is NO DOUBT in my mind that if THIS philly team was ours,they’d be loved by EVERY Met
fan for their talent,heart,guts,personality and fight.”
I hate the team for the same reason I hated the Braves and the same reason the Knicks fans hated the Bulls, because they got in the way of us winning a Championship.
fongy, one of the best posts I’ve ever seen on this site. If the Phillies lose this WS (which is not a stretch), start losing players to FA (probably half of them to the yankees)and dissipate into the “oh the Phillies play baseball?” phillies we are accustomed to, in 10 years the phillies will be irrelevant again. I will never forget having to watch the Yankees and deal with their fans and watch them win as we lose pretty much my entire life.
I am not rooting for the Yanks but I am rooting for the Philies to lose but either way this is hell for us Met fans and for those of us that still lives in the tri-state are its going to be another week or so of hell because if the Yanks do finish them up tonight we are going to have Yankees shoved down our faces from the news to papers to the parades