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Catcher Showdown: Big Bengie vs. Hot Rod vs. Brian

Posted by prismo on 22nd February 2010

With the signing of Rod Barajas, it appears the Mets have a new starter set behind the plate for the 2010 season. Rumor has it that Barajas will make $1MM guaranteed with another $1MM in easily obtained incentives. Earlier this winter Bengie Molina signed a 1 year, $4.5MM contract with the San Francisco Giants. The Mets were praised by some (fans) and blasted by others (media) for not upping their offer to obtain the veteran backstop.

Barajas diving into the stands for a foul ball. There was a similar picture of Bengie, but Im 99% certain he just saw a fan holding a Twinkie.

Barajas diving into the stands for a foul ball. There was a similar picture of Bengie, but I'm 99% certain he just saw a fan holding a Twinkie.

I thought it might be fun (/statistics junkie) to compare and rank Barajas and Molina as well as Brian Schneider, whom the Mets are replacing at the position. The comparisons are solely of an offensive nature and do not take into account fielding or running like molasses (except perhaps in runs scored). Barajas is supposed to be an excellent fielding catcher, but then again - the same was rumored about Schneider, and we all know how that turned out.

The comparison/ranking chart is featured below, but I’ll quickly run through the basics first. I only used the last three seasons, then took a total of the three using weighted averages for OBP, SLG, and OPS, while calculating the average number of HR/RBI/R/SO per 135 games played. I don’t know how many games Barajas will start this season, but 135 seems reasonable. I would risk to the lower side (110-120?), but it doesn’t really matter in this instance. Anyway, in most of the categories Molina came out first and Schneider came out last, with Barajas in the middle. Considering that Barajas will get paid less than half of what Molina makes this season, this move just makes sense for the Mets. Schneider signed for two seasons with the Phillies, as a backup, and will most likely make a bit less than Bajaras per year. Adding in Barajas’ supposedly solid defense, it just seems like the Mets were far better off paying him $1-2MM than paying Molina $5MM. But please make your own judgment and post it in the comments!

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The Milledge Deal Revisted…3 Years Later…

Posted by dirtysanchez on 7th January 2010

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Now that all three participants of the Milledge deal back in 2007 are no longer with their respective teams, I thought it was a good time to look back at a deal that at the time stirred up alot of debate and controversy. In 2005, Omar Minaya deemed Lastings Milledge as one of his “untouchable” minor league players after Milledge post up a .318 batting avg with 8 home runs and 29 stolen bases (for single A advanced and AA). In 2006, Milledge continued to show promise in AAA with a line of .277 avg, 7 home runs, 13 stolen bases and a .388 on base percentage in 84 games until being called up to the majors on May 30th.

Milledge saw very limited plate appearances in 2006 but his most memorable was in the game versus the Giants on June 4th. Milledge hit his first career home run against former Mets closer Armando Benitez to tie the game 6-6 in the bottom of the tenth. On the way back to the out field the next half inning, Milledge high-fived several Mets fans in attendance. This drew the ire of several veteran Met players, most notably Billy Wagner who posted a sign “Know your place, rook” on Milledge’s locker. In 185 plate apperances in 2006, Milledge finished with a .241 batting average with 4 home runs and one stolen base.

Milledge made the opening day roster in 2007 and played about the same amount of time he did in 2006, Milledge spent some time between the majors and minors to make room for players but finished with a .272 batting average with 7 home runs and 3 stolen bases in 206 games. However, that same year under his rap name “L-Millz”, Milledge recorded a song that included…lets just say language that gave Mets public relations personnel a headache. The “hype” of Milledge was clearly dying down from where it was in 2005 and Omar sought to cash in before it was too late.

December 1st 2007

“Not long ago, the Mets considered Lastings Milledge their top positional prospect and untouchable in trade talks. Friday they dealt him to the Washington Nationals for two veterans GM Omar Minaya called “not known names,” but who he said would be everyday players. The Mets got Brian Schneider, a solid defensive catcher who ranked fourth in the NL in throwing out base-stealers, and Ryan Church, an outfielder who hit .272 with 15 home runs and 70 RBI last season”- ROGER RUBIN DAILY

Reactions from some Metsblog members…

“…As for the Milledge for Church/Schnider deal, I would have liked it to have been expanded to get a quality reliever. Maybe Milledge and Humber for Church/Shcnider and Rauch?
We really have no idea how much Milledge’s stock had fallen. I for one am content right now with Church in RF.” - therealsince86 December 7, 2007 at 12:13 pm

Milledge continued to make the same (baseball) mistakes over and over (not hustling, swinging at horrible breaking pitches) and showed little sign that he was correcting his mistakes, which made him a hard guy to root for. Church made one (non-baseball) mistake, apologized for it, and has not repeated it. IMO unless it comes to light at some point in the future that he has continued his bigoted thinking, the guy who admitted the error, apologized for it and didn’t repeat it is the easier guy to root for” - GravediggerHebner December 10, 2007 at 11:34 am

“But Church is just as likely to go .280, 20, 85, and probably play better (if less impassioned!) defense. That trade was personality driven, not talent, anyway. Other than a few hot weeks in September, LoDuca stunk most of the year, and was hurt a lot. No loss. Schneider will be an improvement overall. The key is how Omar builds the bench, and how Willie uses it. If Castro gets 50 or so starts, and plays against most lefties, then the platoon will be solid. Castro + Schneider platoon (he actually hit fairly well against righties) should be much more productive than LoDuca as a FT catcher, with occasional days off (and when he is hurt and can’t go). Same with RF. They just need that strong RH bat with some pop (Nady, Mench) so they can sit Church against the tougher lefites. Mench + CHurch should give them as much as Green + Milledge did.” - stickguy December 12, 2007 at 11:50 am

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The Mets traded Lastings Milledge for Ryan Church and Brian Schneider. Those that were for the deal saw it as a way to “kill two birds with one stone” by filling two holes the Mets had going into 2008 with a defensive catcher and a serviceable right fielder. Milledge was becoming more of a headache to deal with and the Mets could not afford to keep defending or talking their way out of controversy surrounding him. A change of scenery to a team with less media hype was the only logical news. Those against it, saw Milledge at worst another Rickey Henderson personality who had incredible upside but just lacked the maturity. The sky was the limit for Milledge and some fans just saw a home grown star in the making shipped within the division for a right fielder who never played a full season and a light hitting catcher.

Fresh off the collapse of 2007 and the most controversial trade since Scott Kasmir, Ryan Church and Brian Schneider had alot to prove in 2008. Ryan got off to an extremely hot start in 2008, hitting .307 with 11 home runs and 36 RBI’s in the first half. Unfortunately, another freak concussion (Ryan suffered a grade 2 concussion in spring training) in the middle of his hot streak on May 20 against the Braves turned him ice cold when he came off the DL in June. Ryan ended the second half batting .219 with 2 home runs and 13 RBI’s. Brian was touted as a “light hitting defensive catcher” and defiantly lived up to the bill. Brian finished the year hitting .257 with 9 home runs and 38 RBI’s. While his CS% was better than Paul Loduca in 2007, Brian did not improve much from his 2007 percentage and finished with a 34% CS%. The pitching staff under Brian Schneider were charged with 37 wild pitches, just about the same he had in 2007 with 38.

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Lastings Milledge had some parting words for the Mets on the way out in 2008:

“A lot of veterans didn’t like the way I play the game. They thought I didn’t respect it, but the vets here(Nationals) have no problem with me. They know I respect it. They know I work hard. I can’t go through anything worse than I went through in New York. It only gets better from here. I don’t have anything to prove to nobody but my manager, my front office and my family. I don’t have anything to prove to them. Everyone knows what I can do.”

This did not rub to well with the Mets, including the usually quiet David Wright who had this to say:

“Enough is enough. You’re a Washington National now. Don’t worry about what happened last year or the year before that. Just go out there and try to help the Nationals win. It makes no sense to bash your former team. He just needs to turn the page and worry about helping the Washington Nationals. Forget about what we’re doing over here. Forget about the New York Mets.”

Lastings took Wrights advice to heart and entered 2008 as the Nationals starting center fielder.  He was doing well, hitting .245 with 9 home runs and 32 RBI’s until he strained his groin in late June. Lastings came off the DL in late July and went 2-18 until the month of August where he batted .336 with 6 HR and 16 RBI. Lastings finished out 2008 with a .268 batting avg, 14 home runs and 61 RBI’s.

Unfortunately, 2009 was not a kind year for any of these players. Mets fans were hoping for Ryan to repeat his 2008 early season success and he did in April by hitting .313 with a homer and 8 RBI’s. Ryan however went ice cold in May, hitting .224 and costing the Mets a go ahead run in a game against the Dodgers with the infamous “missing third base” incident. While increasing tension between Mets manager Jerry Manuel and Ryan Church were debatable, Church was ultimately traded for Jeff Francoeur in July. Ryan finished the year hitting .260 with 2 home runs and 18 RBI’s for the Braves and was later non-tendered, making him a free agent.

Brian would not face any better luck. Brian spent most of the year injured and a spectator to a “breakout” year from Omir Santos. Brian only played in 59 games in 2009, hitting .218 with 3 home runs and 24 RBI’s. Brian’s CS% was a percent better than 2008 but there were much less base runners for Brian that year. The Mets did not resign Brian after 2009 but the Philadelphia Phillies did for 2 years.

Milledge started 2009 hitting .167 with 0 home run and 1 RBI in April, which lead to a demotion to AAA. Milledge suffered through various injuries and was ultimately traded to the Pittsburgh Pirates on June 30th. Lastings spent most of the year in AAA for the Pirates as well but managed to play 58 games for them to finish the year hitting .290 with 4 home runs and 20 RBI’s.

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Im sure with reading this, you can remember your position with respect to this deal. Do you think its too early to judge the winners of this deal or if you can choose a winner, who would you say won out? The Mets or the Nationals?

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This Day In Mets Infamy With Rusty - The Are You Listening Fred & Jeff ? Edition 12-14-09

Posted by rustyjr on 14th December 2009

Dejection - A state of melancholy depression -see Mets Fan.
Well the proverbial poop has hit the fan in Mets town, and I think Mets ownership has fled for their fall out shelter under Citi Field to avoid the advancing horde of disgruntled Mets fans. If you are listening to WFAN right now you can feel the disenchantment of the fan base oozing like a infected sore on Brian Schneider’s thumb ! I personally am seething right now - I know the Mets had little shot of obtaining the services of Roy Halliday , but Omar not even placing a bid on John Lackey is inexcusable !!! I don’t think I am being out of line when I say that this front office has proved time after time that they have a tendency to be clueless. But even if we get Jason Bay and Bengie Molina ( which are solid acquisitions in my opinion) we will still have a gaping hole in our rotation and I am sorry to say but neither Jason Marquis nor Joel Pinero are the answer. Look I know even if we had obtained Lackey we would have other areas on the roster to fill, but at least we would have had one of the best two starting pitchers in our now anemic rotation. Yes Opening Day is four months away but unless Omar can pull off a hell of a trade , it will look like we will have 95 % of the same roster that we had last year . Now does that give you a feeling of confidence? Mets Ownership are you listening? Your fan base is calling !!!

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                                                               ” Note to the brain trusts…  WAKE UP !!”

And now it’s time for some more INFAMY !!!!

Happy Birthday wishes go out to back up catcher from the early ’70’s - Jerry May (1943) .
Back up catcher from the mid ’60’s - Greg Goossen is 64 (1945) .
Mets batting coach from ‘05 - ‘07 , and friend of Willie Randolph - Rick Down is 59 (1950) .
Sadly on this date on 2004 Mets outfielder from the early ’60’s - Rod Kanehl passed away. His all out style of play and his penchant for legging out extra base hits earned him the nickname ” Hot Rod ” .
Pitcher from the ‘67 team - Nick Willhite passed away on this date in 2008.

Texas Rangers signed utility infielder Mario Diaz of the New York Mets as a free agent on December 14, 1990.

New York Mets signed free agent Lance Johnson of the Chicago White Sox on December 14, 1995. Great signing - that man could hustle !!!

Boston Red Sox signed pitcher Brad Clontz of the New York Mets as a free agent on December 14, 1998.

New York Mets traded washed up outfielder David Justice to the Oakland Athletics for pitchers Mark Guthrie and Tyler Yates on December 14, 2001. Funny that Justice never played a single game for the Mets.

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                                                                         “It’s tough being a Mets fan!”

And just remember , before you jump off that proverbial ledge - there are just 112 sickening more days until the Mets open the 2010 season against the Florida Marlins at Citi Field.

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BREAKING: SCHNEIDER TO THE PHILLS

Posted by dirtysanchez on 1st December 2009

According to Metsblog/John Heyman Tweet, Brian Schneider has signed with the Phillies

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Given yesterdays news about Chris Coste, guess this is a classic switcharoo. I wonder if Brian will tell the Philles he bleeds blue/black/orange as Chris Coste basically said about himself and the Phillies? (thanks metsblog for the link)

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Mets Need: Defense! (Updated)

Posted by CaseStreet on 13th November 2009

This is my first installment of a three part series titled, “Mets Need” where I’ll be discussing the Mets needs and suggesting how to address those needs.

military_defenseFirst, the Mets need to develop a Department of Defense. What is defense? Defense is the action of preventing an opponent from scoring. In baseball, the team that allows the least runs wins the game. The teams that win the most games play meaningful October baseball and that’s what we’re all here for (that and the megan_foxMets Motivational Model).

So to Fred and Jeff Wilpon, Omar Minaya and the rest of the Mets Leadership, I say, “Mets Need Defense!”

***Updated with Catcher information***

For the full article, click on the More button on the right. See you after the jump.

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This Day In Mets Infamy With Rusty - THE DAMN I FEEL SO SKEEVEY EDITION 11-11-09

Posted by rustyjr on 11th November 2009

MIKE FRANCESSA IS RIGHT !!! There I said it !!! - and I feel so dirty by admitting it ! But after listening to the fat man’s daily five hour exercise in megalomania I came away with a sense that he is some sick and twisted way actually trying to help us Mets fans . First off Mike kinda pooh pooed the reports that the Mets front office is split in their hot stove philosophy, and they will be aggressive in both the free agent and trade market. He also advocated that Omar should target Roy Halliday as a top acquisition to pair with Johan Santana as the most potent one - two punch in the entire National League. He also stated the Mets must sign Matt Holliday at any cost - citing that the Mets popularity is receding faster than Brian Schneider’s hairline and to not import top flight talent could have serious ramifications for years to come. Fortunately or unfortunately ( which ever way you want to look at it ) The Fat Man has the ear of Fred & Jeff Wilpon along with Omar, So I guess its good to see someone calling them out and railing against the initial reports that the Mets were not inclined to spend so much money this off season . And I agree with the twitter feed of Hot Foot columnist , Anthony DeRosa , in which he points out ” If Holliday & Bay are too expensive for the Mets, your tickets are too expensive for me!!” - Well said Anthony !

 

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                                                                    ” ARE YOU LISTENING?”

And now it is time for a steamy pile of INFAMY !!

Happy Birthday to setup man from the ‘06 team -Roberto Hernandez (1964) . Hernandez was a panic move by Omar after Duaner ” Dirty” Sanchez fell victim to a separated shoulder after being involved in a freak car accident while trying to sate his appetite for some Dominican food the fateful July night in Florida. So we traded Left Fielder Xavier Nady to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Hernandez & future headache & financial burden , Oliver Perez. Hernandez pitched well and Ollie pitched the game of his life in game seven of the ‘06 NLCS , albeit the Mets lost (DAMN YOU YADIER MOLINA !!!)

Pitcher Dave Telgheder is 43 (1966) , Dave will forever be known as the first Met to win a subway series against the Yankees. ( or was that Milicki ? - oh well)

Utility infielder José Offerman is 41(1968) .
Jack of All Trades - Damion Easley turns 40 (1969) . I seriously wished that the Mets would have brought him back last season he played almost every infield & outfield position in his two year tenure with the Mets , was a clutch pinch hitter, and had a great clubhouse presence that Alex Cora lacked.
Pitcher Mike Bacsik is 32 (1977) . We obtained him in the deal that also netted us the god awful Roberto Alomar !

The Texas Rangers signed Mets free agent pitcher - “Doc ” Medich on this day in 1977.

New York Mets traded one time prospect Terry Blocker to the Atlanta Braves for Kevin” Not that one” Brown on November 11, 1987.

New York Mets traded faded star closer Mel Rojas to the Los Angeles Dodgers for faded power hitter , Bobby “Ill show you the Bronx” Bonilla on November 11, 1998. I guess we were still paying his salary so he might as well play for the team. In all seriousness Bonillia like Gary Sheffield this year was actually a decent citizen of the Mets clubhouse, and he even contributed somewhat in the ‘99 NLCS against the Braves.

And remember, there are only 145 long , drawn out, tiring more days until the Mets open the 2010 season against Florida at Citi Field

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