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Mets Blogs Round-Up

Posted by CaseStreet on 11:00am, Thursday October 8th 2009

It seems like the Mets beat writers are taking a break (hey, it’s been a long season for all of us, but we’re still here). So in addition to Mets in the Papers I’ll be doing a Mets Blogs Round-Up to see what our fellow Mets fanatics are saying.  Without further ado, here’s the Mets Blogs Round-Up.

Metsblog: Buzz: Mets prefer Matt Holliday to Bay by Matthew Cerrone

i have no idea what the Mets intend to do, but signing holliday would not surprise me… holliday is going to ask for a seven-year deal, probably worth around $18 million per season, i.e., the same deal signed by Mark Teixeira last winter… in the end, though, because of the market place, i bet he has to settle for five years, and more like $16 million per season, which i could see the Mets dishing out, considering Carlos Beltran is a free agent in two seasons…

Mack’s Mets: Minors Stuff by Mack

Mets acquired first baseman Eddie Lora and outfielder Chris Carter as the players to be named later for Billy Wagner. The 20-year-old Lora batted .222/.287/.414 with three homers and seven RBI in 99 at-bats with the Red Sox’s Gulf Coast League affiliate in rookie ball. It remains to be seen whether or not he’ll make an impact at the big league level, but along with Carter, it’s a solid enough return for a player who didn’t factor into the Mets’ plans for 2010.

Mets Merized: The Three Stooges Redux by Doug Branch

(If Howard called the fans “customers” one more time, I was going to heave a live child at the TV. A customer is one who walks in interested in a purchase with the possibility of leaving on their own accord, and dignity in tact. A fan is someone that risks sky-high ticket prices, exorbitant concession costs, parking rip offs-which Howard was proud to say belonged to the Mets after many years going to the City, in hopes of seeing a professional baseball team in action.

Pick Me Up Some Mets: GaryKeithandRon year-end event video\ by pickmeup

 This past Saturday, Oct. 3, was the final Gary, Keith, and Ron event of the year. The GKR Elves began setting up at 9AM for this fantastic afternoon at the ball park. Not even pouring rain could dampen our spirits or our fun. Expect cameos from the Mets’ Omir Santos, Howard Johnson, Ron Darling, Mr. Met, and more!

Hot Foot: Don’t Move Home! by Andrew Beaton

Sure, the Mets hit only 95 home runs, which was good (aka bad) enough for fewest in the majors and the fewest since only popping 93 homers in 1992, but is that really a problem? Yes it can get boring as a fan, but it’s not as if Citi Field is causing this major hitting problem for the team, after all they hit better at home.  Add this to having a healthy middle of the order, and the hitting at home isn’t looking half bad, plus with a healthy lineup those home run totals will go up.   

Amazin’ Avenue: Productive Base Stealing And The Mets by James Kannengieser

During the Omar Minaya era (2005-present) the Mets have been one of the best baserunning teams in the game, especially when it comes to stealing bases.

Unfortunately, stolen base success is not enough to make up for a lack of good hitting, evidenced by the 2009 Mets.  A team of Juan Pierres might steal a ton of bases but won’t score many runs.  The Mets offense from 2006-2008 boasted a potent all-around attack: OBP, SLG, and valuable baserunning.  It’s fair to imagine that the OBP and baserunning portions of the offense will have continued success in 2010, given the (expected) returning players’ skill sets.  Let’s hope the SLG portion picks up the slack.

Amazin’ Avenue: Daniel Murphy’s New Approach To Fastballs by Sam Page

The problem is that the approach he demonstrated in those months does not set him up well for future success. Murphy should swing at fastballs over the inside and middle of the plate, but at the cost of swinging at nearly everything else, it’s probably not worth it. Hopefully next year he can use his natural batting eye to find a balance, in which stays patient on outside and even borderline pitches, while making high levels of contact on pitches in the zone. 

Please let me know if there’s a blog post I missed.
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65 Responses to “Mets Blogs Round-Up”

  1. Quite a coincidence that Keith Hernandez got a flat tire on the GKR event day.

    Just busting your chops, Keith. I know you enjoy our blog (wishful thinking out loud).

  2. Regarding the Hot Foot piece, I don’t know if I am in a majority or minority in this thought process (perhaps a poll?) but if my choices are tiny ballpark with constant barrage of home runs or huge ballpark with rare home runs, I choose huge ballpark with rare home runs.

    I prefer a home run to be well earned. As an example I would say many of the home runs I saw in highlights go over the right field wall at Yankee stadium this season were not what I would call well earned. I enjoy a 2-1 game more than an 11-10 game, although in the interest of full disclosure part of my motivation is selfish in that the 2-1 game is almost certainly going finish about an hour sooner than the 11-10 game, thus freeing up more hours of my life for other things.

    I hope the Mets will not move home plate or otherwise alter the park dimensions. It is what it is, and it is what everyone involved in it’s development wanted it to be. Now the same group of people involved in that process need to work together to craft a roster that functions best in the park they’ve created.

    • metsfan4decades says:

      Agreed.
      I will never understand why MLB didn’t standardize all dimensions from home plate to the fences when they started building new ball parks during this modern era. Correct me if I’m wrong - b/c I’m not a big fan, but isn’t the football fields and basketball courts all regulation size/distances?
      Yes, I know it’s standard between the mound and home plate and base to base and home plate. So why not home plate to the fences?

      I know there is another perspective to this I’m just missing…

      • wannybackstra says:

        I like the charm of the different parks and part of that comes from their different dimensions. Does it really feel special to be in one basketball arena as opposed to another?

        That said, I agree with those who prefer the spacious fields. I was at Yankees-Sox game earlier this year and there was no charm to its dimensions at all. In fact, I felt like the game was a fraud with Dustin Pedroia leading off with a HR to RF that looked like a routine fly ball of the bat and a couple of other similar shots to RF.

      • udontmesswthejohan says:

        I would disagree. If all the stadiums had to have the same dimensions I think you would lose a lot of the quirkiness/uniqueness taht these new wave of stadiums have given us.

        All football fields are 100 yards long and 50 yards wide and of course they have to be. But for that reason, I find it hard as a spectator to get all that excited about the new Jets/Giants stadium. At the end of the day it’s a football field.

      • dirtysanchez says:

        I agree 4d. Have them all the same distances and leave the quirkiness or uniquness to other things(hell make the staduim seating resemble a M). I think it would make things alot more fair and balanced(especially in FA nego). That will never happen though as baseball continues to see itself above all other sports…

        • metsfan4decades says:

          I’m all for unique for each ball park. You can accomplish that though even with standard distances to the fences - couldn’t you?

          Good point on the FA acquisitions.
          Our park now might make it easier to acquire a pitcher we’re after - as opposed to say CBP. If you’re a pitcher, wouldn’t you rather pitch in a ‘pitcher friendly park’, as opposed to say Philly or Colorado?
          IDK, just a thought…

    • CaseStreet says:

      yup, can’t wait for Reyes to shatter his triple records.

      just gotta focus on getting on base, taking bases and hitting to the gaps

  3. CaseStreet says:

    I’d be very happy w/ Holliday at 5 yrs/$16M per.

    • udontmesswthejohan says:

      Agreed, I just don’t see him leaving St. Louis. Not at that price at least.

      • CaseStreet says:

        but can St. Louis outbid the Mets? don’t know.

        • udontmesswthejohan says:

          No probably not. I don’t know enough about what motivates him, but if he is the type of guy who is not necessarily motivated by the biggest check, then I think he will stay. Just from an outsider’s point of view, it seems like a great fit for him and that lineup out there. Hope I am worng.

        • dirtysanchez says:

          Not only that, dont the cards have some other pitchers to retain. I believe Holiday is rep by boras which means you will have
          Yanks
          Mets
          Cards
          Secret Team (there always is one in boras nego)
          all vying for matts services. I dont know if holiday stays in St louis but this is going to get expensive and get expensive very quick.

          • trs86 says:

            If I were the Dodgers and could weasel out of the Manny contract I would be all over Holliday. For the Mets, they HAVE to make the top offer other than the Yankee’s if they get involved. If he does not take it so be it. But you have to at least make the top offers to both Lackey and Holliday.

  4. CaseStreet says:

    RE: Lackey, other than the Mets and Angels, who else has shown interest?

    • wannybackstra says:

      From ESPN.com:

      Lackey a $100 million man?
      11:01
      AM ETJohn Lackey | Angels Top Email How much could the postseason be worth for John Lackey? Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times thinks a dazzling October could make the Angels’ right-hander a $100 million man.

      Lackey will be a free agent this winter and potential suitors always remember their last impression. Shaikin points to Kevin Brown, who turned some strong Octobers into a $100 million deal from the Dodgers a decade ago.

      There even has been talk that the Angels might factor this October into whether they will make a serious effort to retain Lackey. “I don’t think John is auditioning for anything,” manager Mike Scioscia told the Times.

  5. CaseStreet says:

    If you had to choose, Lackey or Holliday?

  6. fongy2 says:

    As usual mattsblog is wrong w/their facts. Mark Texeira signed an 8yr-180 mil contract
    which incl a 5mil bonus,20mil this and next season and 22.5mil per ’til 2016..
    Funny too that it was posted by the blognazi himself.
    Hey matt, is it too difficult to check facts before posting a story which then speculates on
    how much the best FA on the market will sign for using incorrect info?
    And WE HERE were banned by you? Jeez, what a joke!
    Like I posted a few days ago fellas, Lets not waste half the winter chasing Holliday if
    Boras is gonna play games. If he wants to sign w/the Rangers or whomever for the most
    money/yrs, fine. However, given our situation, we cant afford to have it drag out while
    plans B,C,D,ETC. go elsewhere.
    B/T/W, Good job Omar FINALLY getting Chris Carter! He should be looked at along w/Murphy
    as a possible answer @1B. The kid really has been held back in the Sox system and looks
    like an MLB prospect. Maybe not a great one BUT a good one.

    • metsfan4decades says:

      blognazi - LOL.

      Obviously, Boras is very good at what he does. But it’s the same reason most fans get a bad taste in their mouth talking about him…

      I remember that Jan. with the going back and forth with Johan. He was quoted as saying, ‘just get it done, somewhere. I’d like to move my family and get them settled before the season begins’.
      With some, maybe the $$ is not the bottom line.

      And after we signed Ollie last year, he was interviewed, saying he was very happy when Boras called him to tell him he’s signing with the NY Mets. Come on, these players don’t let their agents have that much control, do they? I’m thinking that was just b/c it’s Ollie and he doesn’t strike me as the type that would be very involved in his own negotiations…

      • fongy2 says:

        Sad but true that ,for the most part, these guys let their agents make/take
        the best deal over best situation and/or even chance to win.
        Especially with a guy like Boras who,while I too can’t stand him,is great
        at his job. We may get Bay for 5yrs/80mil but I see no chance getting Holliday
        for anything even close to that.

    • CaseStreet says:

      Holy Mary Mother of God!

      Today is a Day of Infamy for TRDMB.

    • CaseStreet says:

      good job fongy, there’s a huge difference between $180M and $126M.

    • wannybackstra says:

      The best part of Texeira’s deal is that he gets to purchase 8 of the best seats at the Stadium. I’m sure that’s what got the deal done!

  7. steveo says:

    Lackey will have interest from the dodgers mets angels o’s tigers and cubs to name a few al who have money to spend but be very weary on how much is offered by the angels they know there guy and they know about his injuries

  8. wannybackstra says:

    From keith law’s ESPN.com chat:

    Jason (St Louis)

    Will there be anyone at the 7th pick that can help the Mets in the near future? The Wilpon’s money issues won’t keep them from taking the best player available will it?

    Klaw (1:46 PM)

    I would not expect them to go over slot.

    Law later said that this draft is much stronger on HS talent than college.

    • fongy2 says:

      Great!, Shawn Abner… anyone?

      • wannybackstra says:

        Only if the next Eddie Kunz is unavailable. Maybe they can get Stanley Jefferson or Kirk Presley II.

        • fongy2 says:

          Or Eddie Williams?

          • wannybackstra says:

            We could use another Choo-Choo Coleman because if you don’t have a catcher you’ll have a lot of passed balls.

            • fongy2 says:

              I think that one was Hobie Landrith!
              Or Chico Escuela?…Beisbol has bein bery,bery good
              to me!

              • wannybackstra says:

                Great stuff on Choo Choo from Wikipedia:

                While Coleman never had great success as a player, he became somewhat famous for his malapropisms. Perhaps most famous was an interview on Kiner’s Korner, the Mets post-game show. Host Ralph Kiner asked Choo Choo “What’s your wife’s name and what’s she like?” Choo Choo replied “My wife’s name is Mrs. Coleman and she likes me, bub.” [2] Another time Kiner asked Clarence how he had gotten the name Choo Choo. “I don’t know, Ralph.” was the answer.

                Upon first introducing Choo-Choo to the media, Mets manager Casey Stengel didn’t exactly sing his praises. He said of Coleman “You have to have a catcher or you’ll have all passed balls.” [3] But he did refer to him as “the best low-ball catcher in baseball”, a commodity the early Mets staff probably needed.

                In 1963, during Duke Snider’s only year with the Mets, he told a reporter how Choo Choo didn’t know his name. Having spent months on the same team, the reporter didn’t believe him. To prove his point, Duke said to the Met catcher, “Choo Choo, do you know me?” Choo Choo replied, “Yes, you’re number 4.” Roger Craig once said: “Choo Choo would give you the sign and then look down to see what it was.” [4]

      • trs86 says:

        Or maybe, David Wright, or Mike Pelfrey (still servicable if not great), or Holt or Davis.
        I know your point is that HS player beware and these guys are not HS guys but my point is that they have drafted a few good players AND they did go SLIGHTLY over slot this season. So there IS hope.

  9. metsfan4decades says:

    Go Rockies! Colorado making my day here this afternoon.

    I had a ‘discussion’ with some Met fan last year who was disappointed that Cole signed an extension with Philly. Said he’d really like to see him on the Mets. I wasn’t that impressed. If you watch him pitch, it appears he only ever has two pitches working for him. Those pitches must have been very sharp, especially in post season last year, but this year - not so much. He wound up with a losing record (10-11, I think) and he’s not looking real good out there today. Might be the same effect as Pelfry with ‘08 and the amount of innings pitched, but I would not put Hamels in the same league as Johan…

  10. darknova306 says:

    “And a good call over there by Angel Hernandez”

    Wow, never thought I’d hear someone speak those words.

  11. stickguy says:

    nice to see the cocky phils not come back for the win. They have gotten a case of the Yankee smug attitude (the “we know we are better, and of course we are going to win” deal).

    Even better? Saw old Cholly interviewed, and it looks like Pedro migth get the call on Saturday. In denver, when it is supposed to be mid-30s and maybe some snow.

    That could go well.

    man, it wold be fantastic if the Rockies could win this in Colorado. That, combined with a Giant victory, would really make my weekend!

    I have given up on the Twins. Hopefully whichever team from bos and LAA that has the best chance to take out the yankees will sweep their series.

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